n the 45th episode of Perceived Value host Sarah Rachel Brown is in Richmond, VA and sits down with the co-director of Radical Jewelry Makeover, Kathleen Kennedy. Having already spoken with Susie Ganch who developed RJM and continues to co-direct, Sarah wanted to get insight as to who was helping Ganch continue this important project.

Moments after turning on the mics, the two women discover they have much in common and discuss their similar ages, experiences moving to Seattle, and their undying love of show choir. Of course they talked shop and Kathleen shared about her experiences adjuncting, why she went grad school, and how she went from being one of the first student participants of Radical Jewelry Makeover to a current co-director.